Regards, Paul. depaor014 January , 2013 in Uniforms,Cap Badges and Insignia. British Nurse Vera Brittain, http://warrelics.eu/forum/helmets/ww1-b met-16128/. The man responsible for the design of the German Stahlhelm was Dr. Friedrich Schwerd of the Technical Institute of Hannover. dailyinfo[1]=' Staff Nurse Edith Mary CAMMACK Associate of the Royal Red Cross, 2nd Class 4th Southern Gen. Hos. During World War 1, the U.S. adopted the Brodie Helmet, also called the British Mark 1. Yes would be very interested to see the other documents, menu and any other informationyou have as these might help with identifying the letters on the helmet. what I can tell you is that, it appears to be from the WW2 period with the cropped helmet lugs, the markings I've not seen. // Stop Define Variables for days of the month the corners been cut off, can't make out the shape in the photo. i don't know anything about brodie helmet . Really appreciate the expertise provided here and hoping that you can help me with the helmet pictured. ", You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. British chinstrap bail The chinstrap bails on a British Mark I and a U.S. P17 are of a completely different design. dailyinfo[8]=' 13277 Labourer Klaas NERO South African Native Labour Corps who died 08/03/1917 PUGU ROAD 1914-1918 MEMORIAL Tanzania ' Generally soldiers were still being issued cloth caps or leather headgear of a kind which offered little or no protection from modern artillery and the shrapnel which sprayed out from it. The A.E.F. I now think the 3 letters on the fromt is actually D then a Crown then the letter H. Also after cleaning the helmet i have found the liner manufacturers: Vero 2 = Everett.W.Vero & Co London.1937 - 1944, Very interesting Tom, if it is a crown then the letters could stand for Department Head to show he was the top. Hi Tom, welcome to the forum. A heat stamp of 305B on a McCord manufactured helmet. Leinster Regiment who died 27/02/1918 JERUSALEM MEMORIAL Israel and Palestine (including Gaza) ' In the case of the British Mark I there is typically a letter followed by a slash followed by another letter. We offer a 100% return policy. //-->, By shells were re-used by the civil defence services. The Brodie helmet is a steel combat helmet designed and patented in London in 1915 by Latvian inventor John Leopold Brodie (Latvian: Leopolds Janno Braude).A modified form of it became the Helmet, Steel, Mark I in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the US. Your previous content has been restored. By var dailyinfo= new Array(31) You cannot paste images directly. // Stop Define Variables for days of the month E.G.Budd. dailyinfo[9]=' Boy SALEH HAJI S.S. TANGISTAN (Swansea).Indian Merchant Service who died 09/03/1915 BOMBAY 1914-1918 MEMORIAL, MUMBAI India ' The M1 came in two parts, a hard metal shell or cap on the outside, and an inner liner hat made out of softer and more malleable materials. dailyinfo[16]=' 22659 Serjeant George SNELL Military Medal "T" Bty. The doughnut was added for the wearers comfort. The helmets from both countries are so similar that often times people believe that the Spanish helmet is a German helmet. Upload or insert images from URL. The finalised model which went into mass production using Hadfield Steel from late 1915 onwards weighed 2.4 pounds or 1.1. kgs. A heat stamp of 50A with an 'S' beneath it on a Schlueter manufactured helmet. Similarly, the cap, when turned upside down, could be used for everything from a bowl for eating to a washbasin for shaving and rinsing to a miniature bucket. Over time this would nullify any anti-reflective properties the finish possessed thus putting the wearing in danger. Original Item: One-of-a-kind. Recently on another Great war forum, a collector asked what the FKS on the inside of his WW1 brodie shell meant. : Brodie helmets. IMP. Thus, in one guise or another it shaped the design of military helmets all over the world for much of the twentieth century. About this item Reproduction of the World War Two British Brodie Helmet complete with a sprung webbing chin strap. Specification. We are born to die, but I appreciate life. He worked in WhiteHall prior to the war as a chartered surveyor. It's a little difficult to provide much information from just a picture. Sorry for the long post and thanks for any info you can give me. When the First World War erupted in the autumn of 1914 all of the major powers were lacking any type of military headgear which could offer effective protection in the face of modern warfare and weaponry. Here's one I've have had in my collection for many years is this with the steel rim and second pattern liner, i would say unissued , not sure if it was for the Americans or New Zealand troops, but the main printed label is not easily read .it still maintains the crown label , the white doggy bone looking mark was on there when i got it,maybe a clumsy decorator ? Middlesex Regiment who died 25/02/1921 LADYWELL CEMETERY United Kingdom ' A 'no helmet' bare head case was used as a control (denoted BAR). The final push in using the Brodie was a variant which was produced in 1936 and which saw widespread service by the Norwegians during the German invasion of their country in the spring of 1940 and by the British Expeditionary Force in France several weeks later. Designed to protect from shrapnel shells bursting overhead, it could be pressed from a single sheet of hardened steel, but left the lower parts of the head less protected. 1-877-862-5245; Home; Contact; About Us; Why Top Pots; dailyinfo[22]=' 25368 Quartermaster Serjeant Leonard Henry CADE Meritorious Service Medal 12th Coy. It was owing to its shape that the German forces on the Western Front began to refer to the helmet as the Salatschssel or salad bowl. Simultaneously, though, the administration of Woodrow Wilson ordered the production of an American-made helmet. Here's how to install a American M17 helmet liner video part 1 and 2. No liner and what looks like a disintegrating pad (asbestos concern?). Me and a mate found. plant of Ford Motor Co of Philadelphia were they were painted and assembled. I find the M1 an excellent helmet when properly adjusted. Royal Army Medical Corps who died 22/02/1919 NUNHEAD (ALL SAINTS) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' Often American GIs used the steel cap from the M1 as a rudimentary entrenching tool to dig these foxholes. The result in 1940 was the M1, which was effectively an altered version of the M1917. Accordingly the main actors in the war quickly began developing new headgear. Fully restored with river gravel finis dailyinfo[29]=' Oberleutnant zur See Axel Carl Ludwig VON SCHOENERMARCK S.M.S. The shell is an American made M1917A1 made by the ( McCord Radiator Co ) the heat stamp number( 10C ). Hi, I recently found my Step-dad's Father's WW2 Mk.1* Brodie. I helmet was made up of 12 percent manganese. A soup dish style helmet from the Great War, offered for sale islabeledincorrectly. Paste as plain text instead, brodie helmet All Auction Buy it now 386 results Service Type Country/ Organization Era Issued/ Not-Issued Condition Price Buying format All filters WW 2 BRODIE NFS Helmet 1940. Copyright Treasure Bunker Ltd ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I have looked on a couple brodie specialist websites and cant find anything. Imperial Russian Adrian helmet. The high temperature of the oven caused the lead based paint to melt briefly before hardening which encapsulated the saw dust particles securing them to the helmets surface. It also is interesting that the British kept the Brodie Helmet while the US went to the M1 for better protection. dailyinfo[1]=' Staff Nurse Edith Mary CAMMACK Associate of the Royal Red Cross, 2nd Class 4th Southern Gen. Hos. Im thinking about making a visit to the Imperial War Museum in London to show one of their specialists as it seems to be hard to find information about it. Production of the Mk 1 Brodie helmets . In addition, the heads of soldiers had relatively greater exposure than other body areas above the parapets in the European trench warfare of that period, and the British "Brodie" helmet and the nearly identical U.S. Marine Corps Doughboy helmet gave insufficient protection to the back of the skull (in contrast to the protection afforded by . H.M.S. Why I speak of our Canadian Great war forumyou know, us Canadians? dailyinfo[16]=' 22659 Serjeant George SNELL Military Medal "T" Bty. O Gauge garden model railway This differed from the British helmet, as the Mk. The main part of the helmet was the steel shell or cap which was produced from non-magnetic Hadfield Steel, a steel and manganese alloy similar to that which the British had begun to employ to make the Brodie helmet as early as 1916. The bail holder is secured to the helmets skirt by way of a steel split rivet. The resulting product, which was ready for mass production in 1917, was the M1917, the direct predecessor of the M1. Both were manufactured using a similar process. Who can tell me about this helmet British WW1 or WW2 or..?? And this only accounts for its use by the American military. This is an excellent true combat example of a genuine Canadian Mark 1 steel helmet that is dated 1941. During the war, the Company took part in fire watching duties, manned a gun at the exit to Westminster Underground Station and undertook a wide variety of training schemes. dailyinfo[7]=' Lieutenant Thomas Sydney Ough DEALY Australian Flying Corps who died 07/03/1918 STONYHURST COLLEGE BURIAL GROUND United Kingdom ' Few military helmets that have ever been manufactured are as iconic as the Brodie helmet. So. Could be Kenny, it's not a British stamp mark socould have beenmade by one of the allied countries , if, it is American then it could be a M1917AI used between 1936 - 1941, the same period the MKII chin-strap. The story, for many years I wanted a bog standard WW2 Cdn pattern helmet for my collection, mainly a display piece. The constant handling a helmet would receive in the field would compress the saw dust finish. Thanks Leon21. dailyinfo[26]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. Colin is the man for Brodies but I think he might struggle with this one too. For slow learners: A Brodie is simply the design of British Army helmet worn in both WWI and WW2, and not a particular type of WWI helmet? ( ZA-Marks belong to the Crosby Manufacturing Co. ), ( ZB-Marks are thought to belong to the Worchester Pressed Steel Co. ), ( ZC-Marks belong to Edward. Category. I am also unsure whether he began workingin Parliament before or after the war, i will be able to tell you tomorrow though. Indeed so functional was it and easy to manufacture that the Brodie was purchased by many other countries and the design was adapted by several other European states and even by the United States. Royal Welsh Fusiliers who died 11/03/1915 FAUQUISSART MILITARY CEMETERY, LAVENTIE France ' $150-300 Information & Special Terms Internet Premium : 20% Participation Requirements: Valid Credit Card required for bidding approval Payment Options: Visa, MasterCard, Discover, American Express, Check, Money Order, Wire Transfer, and Cash Visa MasterCard Discover American Express Payment Instructions . The unpainted shell was dipped onto a vat of olive paint. This was the American M1 helmet, arguably the most iconic and recognizable military helmet produced in modern times. Share 9 posts Mariner109 16 Gefreiter Mar 27, 2010 #1 My buddy has a Brodie Helmet which he might be offering for sale. America ended up purchasing roughly 400,000 Brodie helmets from the British and produced over 2,700,000 M1917 helmets by the war's end. Unlike the ubiquitous Stahlhelm which had been developed by the Germans around the same time the Brodie did not have a nape piece extending further down at the back to protect the neck, however, it did offer greater all round protection from shrapnel descending down into the trenches. A British Brodie 'Tommy' steel helmet with net and leather lining. Some American helmets tend to be a darker olive color, while others have paint identical to their British counter parts. Royal Air Force who died 24/02/1919 LINCOLN (NEWPORT) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' The Brodie had also been employed in this way by the British in the inter-war period. leon21 I think I have read it is thought to be another mark of Firth and sons, but that make no reason for the K. I think it is quite a common mark though. BRODIE HELMET $110. Please enquire in advance about our arrangements for telephone bidding. Those U.S. forces that worked with the French Army wore the Adrian Helmet. Brodie Helmet ID? The helmet was basically an inverted bowl stamped out of a single piece of manganese alloy, which was made up of 13 percent manganese and was .036" thick. I have never seen one with a leather liner like this, it is spiralled around the entire helmet. var mydate=new Date() The helmet resembles an upside down dishpan or washbasin in that it consists of a bowl-shaped cap and a large uniform brim running around the entire exterior.
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