Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours from Riverside to Los Angeles and sit in court all day, Patricia said. Combination locks. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? Not normal folks obsessed ones do. How is it that these women are paroled? That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. who pointed guns at protesters plead Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. She is the one who tricked them, first by The FBI even included a written report to that effect. Blasczyk said she is pleased with the outcome of the case. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a However, Said never called 911. That woman has no soul. And I hope I can get down to see her., Were very thankful to know that Patty is alive and well, Smith added. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. Her brother Larrys false confession was all the LAPD needed to put Patricia behind bars. According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. (Nope. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Patricia Despite the new evidence and hypotheses, the courts have rejected all of Patricias bids for a new trial. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Patricia Rorrer Forensic Files Now Petition JUSTICE for Amina & Sarah Said: To interrogate Patricia Why wouldnt they let any of her witnesses testify? Her mother was married to my uncle. CHOOSE1s Three Strikes Reform Act needs 500,000 signatures by July 17 to make the November ballot, CHOOSE1 files new initiative to reform Californias Three Strikes law, The First Friday doc premieres this week at the New Parkway. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. They would have no reason to protect Andrew and lie on her. The first rule of a murder is motive. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). His defenders claimed that the confession was coerced, the video was grainy/unclear or doctored and the witness was confused and/or unreliable. The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. Trash-talking ex. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. 5 years prior to all this happening! In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. Oklahoma Incest Case: Mom Married Kids - Peoplemag They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. "If she could do that as a woman, my God.". The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. Said They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. Patricia Prue had been planning to use an insanity defense if the case were to go to trial, but she asked the court in December if she could change her plea so she could begin corresponding with her husband once again. Sorry not sorry. Thank you Kerry. Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? He was sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? So whats your point (other than many people are stupid and you arent)? Sticking to a promise he made before the pair pleaded guilty, the Republican governor announced Tuesday that Mark and Patricia McCloskey were among 12 people granted pardons on Friday. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. I dont even know its Christmas.. Have you read the book? Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. Pal stays true. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. Carter can be reached at ccarter6@gmail.com. Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. According to court documents, Patricia Owens, the victims mother and Saids former wife, told authorities that her son and Yaser Saids brothers indicated support for the killings and were not cooperative with law enforcement. He was captured in August and is in state custody. Yaser Said Found Guilty in Murders of Teen Daughters NBC 5 Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial issues and that Jerome was dying of liver cancer and only had 60 days to live. Said's defense attorney said he will be filing a notice to appeal. Puny policy. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. Nobody said bodies were intact. Then international law enforcement was contacted. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. 3 Chicago officers acquitted of covering up for colleague who shot You know the answer to that, the same as I do, which is. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. What definition? She didnt need to have owned all the guns she ever used, nor to have owned the gun she in fact used. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. So, lets take your response one step at a time. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Patty is my cousin. Locked up. Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Three Strikes holds dying innocent woman behind bars: Justice for Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. Exactly She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. Great communicator. [emailprotected]. "So it was relieving to get guilty verdict and get justice for these girls.". Said tried to blame the FBI for not searching for an unknown person, he said, was the real killer. Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. Youll have to make do with what you see here. I didnt believe it. What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Patricia Prue to undergo 2nd competency exam, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. More hairs there. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Patricia Prue's lawyer Brian Marsicovetere told the court on Friday that his client was "severely mentally ill," and that the case should be used as an example for why the state should focus on developing a strong mental health system. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Patricia and Mark McCloskey, the St. Louis homeowners who pointed guns at protesters, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to weapons and evidence tampering charges. The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. Disagree with Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. While Patricia does not qualify for medical parole, she can still file for executive clemency or compassionate release, which she has already done and which was met with more resistance from Gov. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led Missouri's Governor Pardons The St. Louis Lawyers Who Waved Patricia Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. "As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. It cost me a lot of money, I even put advertisements in the paper down in Puerto Rico looking for her.. 'He's going to be in a better place': Florida mom charged with the Stop it.. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. You are absolutely right. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. Roughly nine months ago, Interpol contacted the police department that kept her file open. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. Yaser Said's ex-wife Patricia Owens gives victim statement after guilty verdict Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Jenkins' family left the courtroom without comment on Friday, but they hugged each other once the sentence was ordered. Phone records dont lie.) Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. According to the Division of the Adult Institutions and Gov. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Authorities said they have no evidence that Jerome had cancer or was dying. It seems so, according to you. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. . A federal jury found Yassein Abdulfatah Said, 59, guilty on one count of conspiracy to conceal a person from arrest, one count of concealing a person from arrest and one count of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. She will be in jail for the rest of her life and rightly so. The trial was taking so much of my time. Jerry Browns office, because of Wrights Three Strikes sentence of life without possibility of parole (LWOP), she does not qualify for medical parole. WoW! Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. Patricia Ill always say that Tommy Lynn Sells murdered the Routier boys OR the father Darrin did it. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. He jumped at the opportunity with the understanding that the emphasis would be on Lawrence Slaughter and not his sister. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. A correction to the comment above. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. It fails to mention the car was totally clean of any other forensic residue. She was also accused of breaking into barns, stealing horses, and underfeeding the ones she owned. One on one? I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. It was a very big shock to see to know that she was still alive. Walmart woe. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. I really never thought of it again.. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. Blasczyk said she escaped from East Germany as a teenager when the country was under Communist leadership. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. I dont think so. Patricia had a knack for writing strong headlines, which won her first place in a 2012 national contest. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. A man normally wouldnt care about killing a child, but a woman normally would have some kind of abhorrence to harming an innocent child. She held up pictures of her dead daughters. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. Flawed justice: the wrongful conviction of Kerry Baxter Sr. I expect she will admit it one day. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. I was able to email with Patricia via the PrisonConnect platform around Christmastime. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. (A good point. I wanted to get out of there.. True, Andrew would have no way to acquire and plant Patricias blond hair there because it wasnt that color when she knew him. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. The Charley Project offers details of the womans life before she went missing: She walked throughout the city, approaching strangers and telling them shed had a vision of the Virgin Mary and the world was about to end. pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). And she will have to answer eventually. They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. Warren, who was tearful at the end of the hearing, said she is pleased with the outcome of the case, and that her office was only waiting on the outcome of Allen Prue's appeal. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? New state, new man. When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Theres speculation and theres lies period. Media galore. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. 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Browns action to grant clemency was rescinded after discovering that Patricia Wright had two prior felonies from when her son stole two 99-cent toys and a hand towel from an open house 15 years earlier. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. It's been a long three years for them.". Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. "It's been a long time coming for the family and the community," Warren said. Patricia Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand.